I have to put my 2 cents in here. After living with depression and coming in contact with people who were subject to all kinds of abuse, this attitude makes me angry. Sorry, I"ve seen too much and lived with too much. This is tantamount to Dr Phil saying "Get over it" I don't think so.

i soo agree, hando. it all was kinda harsh. but quincy jones is the grand ol' man of music nowadays in hollywood. he's been around so long and seen so much, and acquired the respect of so many (even me, since the time years ago that i worked with him) that it's hard to disregard the things he says. he always was a real no-nonsense kinda guy, and he certainly pulls no punches with michael or ray.

i didn't see where he called michael a junkie, tho i'm still shocked that he implied ray charles was one. that's heavy duty stuff, but quincy holds nothing back. i thought it was very funny that thruout the article he says he's no psychiatrist, yet he psychoanalyzes everyone he speaks about. plus, he doesn't have the greatest record himself with personal relationships or his own personal life, when you think back to all the shit he went thru with peggy lipton. they said he had a brain anueryrism (sp), but that was while i was working with him, and she actually shot him in his head. that was sure kept outa the media.

i hate to comment on this, but i must...

There's absolutely no evidence that suggests that Jackson was suffering from a psychosis.

except he refused to grow up, he was more comfortable with children, he changed himself until he was unrecognizable, he became a recluse, and he had a fear of bacteria and germs. sounds like the psychotic howard hughes to me. the sadness is that these people can still deal in the world so it's very hard for others to help them. michael definitely had a problem mentally, but what can you do when interventions and all the advice of family and friends falls on deaf ears? my sister and i tried to stage an intervention with a gf of 30 years who was like a sister to us. she hated us for it. it was all to no avail. we all deal every day with people who have varying stages of psychosis. all we can do is endure them.

the general consensus now is that michael was taking a general anesthetic to sleep, and he just never woke up. he was using a very dangerous drug out of the doctor's office. there's not even a prescription for it. we've all had it for dental or minor surgery, but it must be continuously monitored. either he was putting in the iv himself or whoever was supposed to be watching fell down on the job. when they find the doctor that got it for him, he will be liable for criminal manslaughter. i bet they find him, too.

DEA Investigating Michael Jackson Drug Use, Suppliers

Posted on July 2nd, 2009 12:09 PM by Free Britney
Filed under: Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson's body had dozens of injection sites on his body, according to reports.

As we reported yesterday, Propofol, a powerful anesthesia, was found in his house after he died. Medical experts say there no medical justification for Jackson having this drug at home - it is used to knock people out before surgery via IV.

It is increasingly looking like Propofol (also known as its brand name, Diprivan) may have caused Jackson to go into cardiac arrest and die. The first Michael Jackson autopsy concluded no definitive cause of death, but evidence is piling up.

Experts say it's reckless for any doctor to supply Michael Jackson with Propofol period, let alone administer it at the singer's home. This raises concerns.

That Michael Jackson had dozens of injection sites on his body, if it turns out he did, should have made it clear to any doctor that he had a drug problem.

Criminal manslaughter is defined as the reckless disregard for human life. Do not be surprised to see charges brought against one or more doctors who gave drugs to Jackson, as we saw in the eerily similar Anna Nicole Smith case.

As for who gave Michael Jackson what drugs, when and how?

The LAPD has reportedly asked the DEA to assist them in its investigation into multiple doctors who treated and prescribed medications for Michael Jackson.

The DEA will help the LAPD hunt down the source of medications.

Jackson used a slew of aliases to get prescription meds, including the names Omar Arnold and Jack London. Those aliases were used by MJ to obtain Demerol.

The King of Pop also used the name of one of his bodyguards, as well as the name of the office manager for one of his doctors, to secure prescription drugs.

Sources say his prescription abuse was so egregious, one doctor would call a pharmacy and say Jackson was coming down to get Demerol. The pharmacy would then fill the prescription, leaving the patient's name completely blank.

While Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, is not charged with any crime, suspicion of him is likely to increase if Jackson's abuse was this bad.

The DEA will be hunting down these aliases and others in an attempt to find out who allowed the likely addicted star to obtain the medications that may have ultimately resulted in his tragic death. More details as the story develops ...

my, my, ladies, jules & karen. a bit excited are we? is that what the supersized font is about?

jules, that's a bit of a blatant lie about my asking you about your maid. you'll have to show some proof to back that up. i don't expect many people to have maids, unless they are of the mj, quincy jones, obama ilk, but many people do have housekeepers. lots of busy working women use them. so that accusation is all bullshit.

you'd have to be pretty much of a dunce, tho, to think a white person has some idea of what it's like to live as a black in america. that's unless your family has married into a minority. our lives are different. not as much now as they were in mj's heyday, but still different, nonetheless.

and how do i know how white people felt? well, that's a no-brainer, too. they told me so. last i looked white people were in control of the media and all other aspects of disseminating info to the nation, about themselves, about minorities, about everyone. it took their agreement to make mlk day. black people couldn't have done it on their own. now you think you know all there is to know about mlk, black people and civil rights.

well, civil rights goes both ways. once the rights are given, the people they are given to have to want and believe they can become successful. black people didn't think that just because they could vote, or go to certain schools, or drink at any water fountain. it took the breakthrough of a few, like gordy, and diana and mj and even oprah, to make them believe they actually could actually succeed in the workplace. in point of fact, obama was really the straw that broke that camel's back. officially, imo, there is no reason a black or ethnic person can't do anything they want in the world. here we are 50 years after civil rights, and it's only now becoming clear.

now these are things, as a white woman, you'd have absolutely no idea about. so, you haven't lived my life. deal with it.

oh, and btw, haters, i never said i was surprised to hear ray charles used drugs. i said i was surprised that quincy implied it. and i said implied because he wasn't as gross as you and didn't actually say either mj or ray was a junkie. doing heroin for 20 yrs does say it all, tho. i was surprised, cause it's not an admirable thing to bring up when it's not requested. ray charles is much admired. he's not going to go down in history as an addict, but as a great singer. just like mj. but i could have done without quincy bringing up more black druggies, even if they are respected black druggies.

on another tack, and getting back to the subject of the thread: it looks like debbie rowe is going after the kids. this is gonna be a huge mess. criminal investigation going on while a custody trial is happening. whoo hoo! tabloid news for days!!

i can't wait to hear who thinks debbie's doing this for the money, and who thinks she's doing it for her maternal peace. i think it's the money. otherwise, why she want to take those kids away from the family they know? it's going to be wrenching for them. why would she cause them so much pain to have to endure that?

now i have to get back to wimbledon. fabulous matches going on today...